14 July 2005 @ 11:27 pm
On Spoilers, or Spoiler Warning For Pretty Much Anything
With the flood of people discussing possible spoilers for Harry Potter And The Half-Blood Prince, I started thinking about spoilers in general.

First, some ground comments. The Darkfriends of my acquaintance have a rule about spoilers: Once you get past maybe a year or two tops, it's no longer feasible to protect against them. Certainly not for old material like Citizen Kane. The rule is summed up best by [livejournal.com profile] prince_corwin: "Caesar dies. Frodo lives. Christ does both."

Spoilers are often not the whole story anyway...as in the case of Citizen Kane, the spoiler doesn't destroy the movie, because it's often just as much about the process. Babylon 5 mastered this.

That said, there are some movies (or books, or possibly even video games) that have spoilers, now long since past expiration of course, that qualify as Big Deals, or would have when they came out, or are just ones that people pretty much know or know about. Revelations that really change the equation, or are historically significant. I'm curious what some of you think they are. I'll seed the pot with a few of my own; feel free to leave a comment with more.

Ground rule: If it's still spoiler-protected (read "less than a year or two old," unless you'd have to be living under a rock not to know it), don't post it. This is about more "classic" spoilers. If you complain about spoilers, don't do it here, because you're given plenty of warning. Don't piss me off about that either...you will get no sympathy.

The Current List Of Big Spoilers (last updated Saturday July 16 0215 PDT):
Citizen Kane
The Maltese Falcon
Star Wars
The Usual Suspects
Soylent Green
The Sixth Sense
War Of The Worlds
The Crying Game
Final Fantasy VII
Fight Club
Psycho
Harry Potter
Memento
Vertigo
Babylon 5
Spartacus
Escaflowne
The Third Man
Watchmen
Old Yeller
Planet Of The Apes
Primal Fear
Chinatown

(Those are the ones I really consider spoilers, or recognize. There are some that really don't count in my mind [such as, I kid you not, Kefka being crazy in Final Fantasy VI] or whose source material I am completely unfamiliar with that I've not listed here.)


Citizen Kane: Rosebud is his sled.

The Maltese Falcon: The statue's a fake.

Star Wars: "I am your father."

The Usual Suspects: "Verbal" is Keyzer Soze.

Soylent Green: Is people. (credit to [livejournal.com profile] jchance)

The Sixth Sense: Bruce Willis is dead. (credit to JC as well)

War Of The Worlds: The Martians die of the common cold.


Any more from the peanut gallery? What spoilers are (or were) big?
 
 
Velocity: curious
Soundtrack: I Don't Want To Spoil The Party - The Beatles - Beatles For
 
 
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[identity profile] psychojediboy.livejournal.com on July 15th, 2005 02:24 pm (UTC)
I'd say The Village but that I'm the only person in the world who like it. Wasn't there some big twist to Unbreakable? Of course, I didn't care enough to remember, so...
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[identity profile] theweaselking.livejournal.com on July 15th, 2005 02:25 pm (UTC)
Yes, but The Village, Unbreakable, Sixth Sense, and Signs are all not big enough to qualify for this list.
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[identity profile] scifantasy.livejournal.com on July 15th, 2005 02:28 pm (UTC)
The Sixth Sense is. At least, for my list.

I know the twists to the other three M. Night movies and I'm underwhelmed, but The Sixth Sense...that one was big, certainly then.
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[identity profile] psychojediboy.livejournal.com on July 15th, 2005 03:00 pm (UTC)
I'd argue that the only reason some of his other movie surprises aren't seen as being as big as the on in Sixth Sense is because of the Sixth Sense. Once he did it once nodody was surprised when he did it twice. After twice it was just expected.
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[identity profile] eibii.livejournal.com on July 15th, 2005 04:30 pm (UTC)
*raises hand* Village fangirl, yo.

The Twist in Unbreakable was that Elijah was the one behind the accidents, including the one that David survived.
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[identity profile] misachan.livejournal.com on July 16th, 2005 08:39 am (UTC)
The Village scared the heck out of me. They tried so hard to build a utopia, and not they did only wind up with a dystopia instead, none of them seemed to realize it. It was one of the truest depictions of real, honest-to-God, everyday evil I've ever seen.
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